No Collision Mod

Why to Vote Yes!

Are you f@$ing tired of a pillar not placing for no reason. That one foundation thats clipped to far into the ground (like WTF why) Then vote yes saying you want the better no collision mod. This one requires no engrams and works better. We should still keep the old collision mod so the structures using it dont demolish.

why to vote no

There is virtually no reason not to vote yes to this so just dont go there

It would be helpful if you link the mod in question here, since of the 3 no collision mods I know, one is broken since some time now, the other is unsupported and actually replaces vanilla engrams which is sth I'd rather not do and the last one is the one currently active

Astaroshe wrote:It would be helpful if you link the mod in question here, since of the 3 no collision mods I know, one is broken since some time now, the other is unsupported and actually replaces vanilla engrams which is sth I'd rather not do and the last one is the one currently active

Sorry for not linking it, everyone was talking about this holly mod of all mods so I figured everyone knew. Not sure which one they where talking about, do the other two allow better clipping? Also whats wrong with replacing vanilla engrams?

Replacing vanilla engrams means that any changes the devs in their more or less reasoned minds decide are not applied to replaced engrams unless the mod author edits it. More importantly though if sth with the mod goes wrong all stuctures would vanish if we have to remove it since there are no vanilla structures around. On the terms of No-Clip our current one softens the sometimes harsh vanilla collision detection but is limited to a default of 50% of the structure has to be not obstructed. This is mainly a limitation due to how the Game handles that (mainly due to some changes in the past) Our current one has a special option to make all Structures into a foundation and we can use a override command to set engram costs. While I'd argue that setting the engram costs to 0 on it's own is a somewhat exploitable way there is a option to set them so that in order to learn them one needs to have the original engram learned. This however is quite a big chunk of code that would have to be written and thus currently is not a valid option until my exams are finished.

Regarding that ini setting for servers I'll rather wait till they actually add that to the patchnotes b4 we hype something^^

Astaroshe wrote:Replacing vanilla engrams means that any changes the devs in their more or less reasoned minds decide are not applied to replaced engrams unless the mod author edits it. More importantly though if sth with the mod goes wrong all stuctures would vanish if we have to remove it since there are no vanilla structures around. On the terms of No-Clip our current one softens the sometimes harsh vanilla collision detection but is limited to a default of 50% of the structure has to be not obstructed. This is mainly a limitation due to how the Game handles that (mainly due to some changes in the past) Our current one has a special option to make all Structures into a foundation and we can use a override command to set engram costs. While I'd argue that setting the engram costs to 0 on it's own is a somewhat exploitable way there is a option to set them so that in order to learn them one needs to have the original engram learned. This however is quite a big chunk of code that would have to be written and thus currently is not a valid option until my exams are finished.

Regarding that ini setting for servers I'll rather wait till they actually add that to the patchnotes b4 we hype something^^

I say we wait and hope the ini fix comes out and change it then

Short update on this topic. There now creeps up a new Mod that seems promising.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=731604991
it also adds some new Structures like fabricator that can run on both oil  or electrictity (tbd if we add those). Some issues currently are reported but I'll keep an eye on it.
If we add them in the future I will check how and if we could possibly disable the old CS mod without you guys loosing stuff, to clean up mods and improve loading times

I have been testing the structures plus mod both in solo and in a server environment and i can definitively say it is one of the best no clip mods i have used, and the added glass and metal structures add new parts that are customizeable in ways to make some truely dynamic building.